So much for any level of solidarity in this industry then. I can just see the howls of anguish that we'd see on this forum if (when ) BA tried to cut pilot costs again. Anyway, These company managers need to understand that, in a customer service industry consultation with staff is of vital importance, because its the staff that are the public face of the company, not the gnomes that are concerned with balance sheets, share prices etc (important though they are.)