Originally Posted by
BillieBob
No, I am saying that an AOC is not required for flight instruction, as homeguard suggested. An AOC is required for public transport, which is when valuable consideration is given or promised for the carriage of passengers or cargo in an aircraft. Try reading the ANO a little more carefully - Article 157(3)(a) might be a good place to start.
Thank you, you are nearly correct but what a shame your attitude detracts from your knowledge.
But getting back to Aerial Work, it is my understanding that if you and the student are not members of a club and you take them flying for the purposes of letting the student handle the controls it is public transport and therefore you need an AOC, Ops manual etc. Wasnt there the case involving the two seat Spitfire 9?
I suppose if it came to the crunch you would have to prove that you and the student were a member of the same club that had been set up for the purpose of giving flying instruction. I wouldnt imagine that the bench would accept that if it was all done verbally and you met in the car park that it was a club. I would imagine to operate as a club you would have to have in place what one would expect a club to have, membership forms, a clubhose etc. I have always understood that is why passengers are joined into the club(even though it is a school). Lots of grey areas, i think!
Getting back to our friend who has read the ANO
Originally Posted by
BillieBob
No, I am saying that an AOC is not required for flight instruction, as homeguard suggested. An AOC is required for public transport, which is when valuable consideration is given or promised for the carriage of passengers or cargo in an aircraft. Try reading the ANO a little more carefully - Article 157(3)(a) might be a good place to start.
An AOC and Ops manual can be a requirement to give flight instruction(your phrase) and the case is on a airline where flight instruction is being given by a pilot authorised by the authority to give such flight instruction (that's me by the way and my title is training captain) Without either one of these documents being valid and approved (AOC & Ops Manual) i cannot legally give flight instruction to the candidate.
Try understanding the ANO a little more carefully. !!!!, now I am beginning to sound like you!