Originally Posted by
Yellow Snow
If the band 1,2 and 3 units are going to stubbornly attack us at every chance they get about our T and Ps compared to theirs reagrdless of the issue on the table, I hope you will reconsider your ways when the pensions issue comes round, as for once, it would be nice, no how about fu

ing critical that we stuck together and actually acted like profesionals.
Yellow Snow
I agree this is getting out of hand. Yet this comment above leads me to feel that you still don't get our point. You say we should stick together with pensions. I say we should have stuck together with banding. What is to say that again if (again I doubt that they could but you never know) management manage to give the area and band 5 airport atco's a better deal YOU will vote for yourselves and not stick with us. I would guarantee if you counted the units as one vote per unit then the last pay offer would not have gone through. It did not favour the majority of units, especially the ones north of London
It is not an inferiority complex or us feeling sorry for ourselves. I am paid well as are you. BUT when the pay rises, benefits, compensation etc, is divided up and YOU get things and we don't, you are in theory taking it from my pocket and I object to that. We should all get a share.
We just do not have the same bargaining power as you, EGPD have more controllers than you but are not in the 'limelight' and are not 'valued' as high as you, as the esteemed Point7 kindly stated.
The point of a Union is to stick together and look after all, ESPECIALLY the minority who usually are 'walked on' by management. However this does not seem to happen in NATS. I'm sure someone will come on with the usual 'get involved or shut up' claptrap. However as a shopfloor ATCO3, who pays his subs for representation I am telling you how the majority of regional controllers feel.
The personal jibes have got out of hand. You work hard down there and are professionals like the rest of us. BUT you are well paid for it. Your scale goes up to £80 grand I believe which is way above ours. And now it seems you will be granted even more benefits. That is when it looks like you are taking the p*ss. You are looking after yourselves, fair enough, but the benefits you gain should apply to all and they won't.
Hold at Satan
"And why share the details of our WP offer with these guys. It's on a need to know basis and they just don't need to know"
I thought we were one company and you wanted us to 'stick together'? It is naive/ignorant comments like this that breeds resentment/division.
Bloody hell, I haven't written that much since my last 4114