I remember a Master Pilot on the Lightning sim at Binbrook in the 80's, who was an absolute gentleman. When I arrived at Gut in '79 there was a old Cpl on 18 sqn who wore an AG brevet and various medal ribbons on his battle dress (most of use had thunderbird jackets by then) At Valley in the '80s, the walls of STCAAME (sic) were littered with pictures of hoards of NCO pilots alongside their Javelins which went out of service in '68.