Charly, sorry for the delay (flying ANOTHER crappy schedule....). The figure quoted was BEFORE tax. Year 8 Captain. Figures rise by about 1800 Euros per year. CX is the most miserable, demoralised airline in the industry (doubt this.....just have a read of the 'Fragrant Harbour' forum....). We are suffering from the most incompetent and venal management of the present age. I wouldn't wish them on my most ruthless competitor..... Good luck to all in your respective battles with management.