If you just give Joe a call you can probably speak directly to him but I don't think that he will be interested. He is pretty much all business and would probably charge you the going charter rate. What is the reason that you wish to get a check-out on a four anyway, just for fun? You definately don't want to work for Joe if you are a retired airline pilot..... rolling drums again hauling drill steel, winter ops with radial engings..fun wow! .....Just curious.