Sorry slight change of thread.
I was out recently with some old school friends and there was a guy there who was a pilot for Excel.
Anyway, he came out with the most ridiculous comment from a pilot I have ever heard.
"We don't need Air Traffic anyway, you are there just as an advisory service".
Ok mate, so you would be able to taxi round Heathrow on your own along with everyone else could you?
Muppet, oh yes, and of course Excel don't fly into Heathrow do they? Bless.
That comment showed me what a lot of pilots think of ATC.
I asked him if he ever visited an ATC unit.
The answer.......................................
Shanwick.
Not quite a busy complex Radar environment like TC or Swanwick.
And he is about four feet tall.