Islandhopper Don"t blame Balpa they only do what the respective PLC ask them to do. Generals can start a war but if the troops desert ie the pilot force does not support the cause then the battle is lost. Pilots generally do not have a good record of sticking together except in USA and perhaps Cathay and BA inthe past which is why the rest ofus moan in bars but do nothing else!! We are all to blame for our lot!!