To full-span-spoiler - thanks for the info mate, will give it a go. Yeh, Oz is going pretty good at the moment, but it just depends on what you want. I flew in Canada for a bit and after flying in both countries, the grass is definately greener on the other side. TC are absolute darlings compared to our version, and the flying is real bush flying, plus I found Canada just a better place to live, visa vie the info I requested. Will keep looking for that back door in!