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Old 4th Nov 2006, 02:42
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Chimbu chuckles

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No, on the basis that anthropogenic (caused by man) global warming is a load of BS.

The world might getting warmer...or cooler. One day it will get cooler..or warmer. There aint a fecking thing we can do to significantly effect this natural cycle. It has been happening for millions of years. I find it amazing that no one in the mainstream media ever thinks to ask the 'climate' scientists that predict man made disaster what caused the last three ice ages and warm periods when man was not around burning fossil fuels

On the rare occassion when they are actually pushed they admit the earth was an average 4 degrees warmer 3000 years ago...but the media 'professional' never then challenges the doomsayer predictions of ice cap melting and sea level rise. The scientist will say something like "We know from ice core samples that the world was as much as 4 degrees warmer 3500 years ago" and the next 3 logical questions don't get asked;

"Oh all the ice didn't melt?"

"And the polar bears weren't driven to extinction?"

"What caused it to get warmer...it wasn't us?"

No...much better to stick to the politically acceptable assumption that it is caused by us and then discuss doomsayer predictions that keep people on the edge of their seats.

As to oil. Anyone else been reading about the HUGE light sweet crude find in Utah that will rival Prudhoe Bay?

The last 4-5 years they have been drilling madly and FINDING oil.

The Saudis have been mumbling about over production and flooding the market for 12 mths...but it has mostly been lost in background noise and the speculator hype. Demand has been dropping and the inventories have been accumulating. One of the reasons they have to cut production is because the biggest market, the US, can't store the **** in enough places and need to sell the expensive stuff to make room for the cheaper stuff.

Now the Saudis have two choices...just cut back on production to match demand or make a big announcement and scare the price up into a little spike of a couple of $...or more likely just get a little slowing of the price slide...either way it's worth Billions to their bottom line...and all the other oil producing nations and companies.

Atomic power is on the adgenda in Australia for one reason and one reason alone...there is no better way to produce the VAST amounts of electricity required to make desalination of sea water feasible. There is also no cleaner way. You could do it with coal fired power stations or oil fired power stations...but why would you?

Australia is a dry continent...millions of years ago it was mostly rain forest, as was antartica btw..(what caused it to get drier? Fecking sure it wasn't Wayne driving his V8)...it cannot support a growing population from a water perspective. The population probably exceeded what the continents rainfall could sustain naturally 15+ years ago.

For 'the population' to keep growing so it can support 'the economy' Australia needs to start desalinating sea water on a large scale...so we need atomic power stations.

Personally I would like, like ****su, to see globalisation vastly reduced because it is innefficient. Localised production and distribution would be a good thing from very many points of view...just not the point of view of 'the economy'...which as we discussed some months ago is the small % of greedy Mofos at the top of the human food chain...'the market' multinationals, CEOs...abetted by Pollies

Given that they make the decisions and 'the population' gets no say in the matter that is less likely to happen.

The big problem is that the greenies have so captured the political adgenda that it is near impossible to do the things needed on a short enough time scale. Imagine how the luvvy, tree hugging feckwits are girding their loins on atomic power? Collating all the horror strories on atomic power...or at least the ones that showcase the technology of the 1950s and the political ignorance of it's safety or otherwise. I suppose there really is no possibility that nuclear technology has advance any in the last 1/2 a century

I hope the threatened Supreme Court actions against Govts on climate change actually happen...they will cost millions but if that gets the facts out about global warming rather than the hype it will be money VERY well 'wasted'. Much better than wasting trillions on Kyoto which cannot make any difference as to whether the world warms or cools...spending trillions on Kyoto is just feeding another self sustaining beaurocracy

Rant over

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