Ramp....The question we need to ask ourselves is, is the IAOC of any use? Look at the facts carefully, the 727's are soon to accumulate sand in the desert and the A300's are worth more than cans than they are as aircraft. Most of the comments on this forum simply don't add up..serendipity springs to mind as does the feathering of nests for some. Post christmas is the tradional time for management to hand out dissappointments. I'm preparing, are you? <img src="eek.gif" border="0">