LM, point taken and I am definitely not laying the blame with BD. Now this subject has been given the oxygen of publicity I would hope that there is added impetus to getting it fixed sharpish. Surely we should not go down the road of hiring private helicopters to ferry our troops around? SW mentioned the safety angle, can you imagine the arguments if a private helo went down with British troops on board? The solution to the current problem lies at BD. PM has stated that UK Armed Forces will get anything their commanders ask for. Well they are asking for more Chinners. Get it sorted.