Hi Renurpp,
Originally Posted by
RENURPP
as I said below its a known distance we can stick in the box.
The controller's responsibility is to provide track miles to run and position information.
To do that we need tracking details not random vectors.
Vectors via a circuit pattern are not random. It's a common and valid control technique.
Its another scenario where we are making it easier for the controller, when I thought the idea was for controllers to provide us with logical and safe tracking so we can concentrate on whats really important, flying the aircraft.
Vectors via a circuit pattern are both safe and logical.
Even track for a 5 mile final, its just alot easier if we know where we are going and can track there ourselves.
This is the reason for STARS. They offer predicted tracking and decent profile. A request to be taken off a STAR will greatly increase the chances of vectors.
I hope some of this helps but perhaps a little kudo's to the controller for trying to help you fly an approach to the non duty runway is in order. The next time you hear "not available" don't be surprised.
PS. New SIDs and STARs out soon which are more efficient. See AIP Sups.