[quote=A2QFI;2892070]Good morning
are you going to draw a difference between aircraft that were just very dangerous to fly and people crashed and died in them and/or those which were useless at their military job and were shot down a lot?
F 104 = very dangerous, loads lost but none shot down
BP Defiant = Utterly useless and withdrawn from service due to battle losses
Nick: thanks for this and for making the distinction. I think both categories are relevant, for the different reasons you mention. An aircraft that is either unstable or over-challenging (Starfighter?) will kill pilots in any circumstances. A 'safe' aircraft that is nevetheless unsuited for its combat purpose, is equally lethal.