Originally Posted by
High Wing Drifter
DFC,
Is it public transport flight if the pilot paying the passenger? The ANO says it is public transport if the cash is flowing in the other direction...unless I've missed something.
Surely PU/T is only relevant if you are actually being trained, as there is no recognised rating or qualification (neither a revalidation or type checkout) for flying to le-took then there can be no instruction recognised by the CAA and thus no PU/T. If that is the case, then the flight was either unloggable (P1 for the instructor) or P1 for Nuclear Weapon.
What's this got to do with a chap's character?
It is public Transport if payment is given or promissed for the carriage of a passenger or cargo. Who does the paying and to whom makes little difference.
Forget PUT. The flight is either logged as "Pilot in Command" or "Dual". The flight can be dual when any training is given. It does not have to be a recognised CAA sylabus or even training towards a CAA or other recognised qualification.
The fact is that the student contracted with the school to be trained in an aircraft by an instructor and paid for that training. To turn round later and say that there was no training provided would be not just a logging issue, but it would also mean that the student paid for a service that they did not receive and then there is the possible refund of money, false advertising and so on.
Not only that but if it is a club requirement (flying orders) and/or and insurnace requirement then by the student saying that they did not receive the required instruction they have not completed the check and thus can not make subsequent cross channel flights until checked in the laid down manner.
Owners or operators of aircraft are entitled to decide the requirements which are to be met by individuals wishing to fly such aircraft. If an owner decides that everyone will receive groundschool of two hours in how to do a head stand then that is what will be done. People who don't like the idea are entitled to go ensewhere.
What has it got to do with the Guy's character? - Basically, not much other than if a person who during a discussion with you mentions that they drive reguluarly after 4 or 5 pints, you are not going to let them have your car for a weekend's driving now are you?
Regards,
DFC