The last time I took a load of ppruners to West Drayton, we were shown three clips of infringements. They were pretyy eye opening to say the least. The Heathrow one was serious although I started laughing as I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was unbelievable.
WF. I wonder if it is possible to see the clip on here or even better all three. What are the chances mate?
BRL, on here, zero.
We will be speaking with the new webmaster of the Fly on Track site though to discuss what we might be able to make available on there.
Originally Posted by bookworm
So all we really know about the SSEs is that the infringing aircraft came within 5 nm and 5000 ft of an IFR flight?
Where can we find out more information about the circumstances of the SSEs?
SSEs are NATS own internal scoring mechanism. It's likely there will be at least an MOR report behind each incident that NATS then scores for its own purposes using the SSE scale so if you have access to the CAA incident reports you will likely be seeing all the events that NATS are subsequently scoring internaly for their own purposes using the SSE scale.
Originally Posted by DFC
One can not claim a loss of separation in class D between VFR and IFR because the standard separation is simply do not collide by looking out your window and spotting the traffic! It may be an airprox but not a loss of ATC separation. Where a VFR flight infringes then the atc unit may not notice and may not pass traffic information. Traffic information is to be passed to IFR flights on relevant VFR flights. Now if the traffic info is not passed by a procedural unit then hey what do you expect. However, if a radar unit fails to pass traffic information on what they see then they have failed to provide the required service and any subsequent airporx is not simply pilot error.
If in this paragraph you are talking about inringing VFR traffic then you don't really understand the subject, not for the first time.
WF.