ETOPS ? Why are you worried about that. Delivery flight is non-commercial thus no need to plan etops. very handy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> . .As for a route on a purely best time/burn how about :. .CYQX DCT YQX 5150N 5345N 5635N 5730N 5825N ERAKA UN581 BEN UN585. .FINDO UY802 RAPIT TEXEL 5110E STO30 4620E SERCE VA4 GOTAN VG8 IST. .DCT LTBA. .And an altitude profile of. .370 5110E 390 STO30 410. .To give you an EET of 0648 and net fuel load 18166kgs.. .This is optimised for the B738 (non winglet) on today's winds.. . . . <small>[ 21 March 2002, 19:54: Message edited by: wong one ]</small>