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Old 31st Aug 2006, 18:41
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Originally Posted by BEXIL160
.... and cost how much? and was how late? and still relies on NAS which is HOW old?
It cost however much building a new bespoke ATC platform cost, which is why SACTA/CASPIAN/iTEC is a colloborative project with AENA to share the costs . Only the senior management put about the ridiculous date, everyone on the project kept telling them it was not realistic. The original concept of NAS may be old but it is still doing the job, still being updated with all the airspace changes and coping with it all very well. There's a saying 'If it ain't broke then don't fix it'. Aside from that a new FDP system is going to cost an absolute mint, hence iTEC-eFDP which is another collaberative project which will share the costs.
OTHER systems were available at much less cost and were proven, but would have mean junking NAS.
This is your opinion and obviously not generally shared.
Lack of CCTV information has been implicated in safety related incidents since Swanwick opened (the latest last week) Lack of it has been cited in many incident investgations and yet it's still not provided. You seem to be saying that management think that this situation is acceptable beacuse MOST of the time we get by without it. Doesn't sound much to me like a committment to safety
Management decision, management carry the can in the event of an SSE attributable to a lack of equipment which could have been foreseen. We've had this discussion already.
iFACTS does seem to be getting it right. It has had operational ATC people involved from the beginning.
Not from the beginning thats the domain of the engineers, don't think ATC would be interested or compenent to work out the wiggly amp bits. Yes there has been strong ATC input for over a year now, where we are in the ATC user phase but this has been around for about 4 years.
The rest of the systems you mention have not (by your own admission). PM seems to be a bit hit and miss then.
SACTA/CASPIAN/iTEC are approaching but not yet at the ATC input stage. When they reach that stage then you'll see just the same commitment as there is currently with iFACTS. Right now we are agreeing the ATC goals (formerly known as requirements) amongst the 4 ACC.
Getting consensus can be very difficult among a group of controllers, they will however tell you as one, when you've got it wrong.
600 controllers = 620 different answers

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