Thanks Mr Benn. .. .I believe the ratio at jmc is just under 7/aicraft although don't quote me. Our Balpa company council voluntarily suspended the SA post sept 11 until 31 Mar.. .. .Our problem is that as part of last years pay award we negotiated a contractual SA agreement to be in place this year. The company has proposed an agreement that provides so little protection it doesn't matter if it is contractual. . .. .Management are also saying that with the proposed crewing levels it is the best that can be offered.