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Old 21st Aug 2006, 11:37
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VMC descent and Visual Approach

Hey folks,

I'm happy I understand both a VMC descent and a Visual approach. I understand their use and application and who is responsible for separation etc.

But how does it work close to the ground. I'd be interested to hear controllers opinions on vmc descent to below the MSA? (Who is then responsible for terrain sep?) Followed by a Visual approach? Can you do a VMC descent and a visual approach concurrently?

The MATS1 is specific with each but does not easily translate into the real world where an a/c would want to make a visual approach to an airport but cannot because of IFR traffic below him where the only procedural separation that can be applied is a VMC descent - though its more of a good weather get out clause and not separation standard.

Anyone come up with answers and phraseology?

Cheers.
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