Raas767
This next-to-last post from you was the most passionate and reasonably stated effort to date! Well done, boy. It even made me pause to think......not for very long, mind you, but pause I did. Of the many points you raise, the one I'd like to take issue with is that management's prime consideration is to shareholders, according to you my dear Raas. I'd like to suggest a tiny modification replacing shareholder with 'stakeholder'. That puts we happy few, equally at centre stage along with shareholders. In an ideal world, pilots would be shareholders also, and not unions as in the sorry and sad case of UAL.
In my universe Raas, we don't sit around the campfire singing CumbaYa (sic), but neither do we guzzle Wild Turkey whilst smoking spliffs and chomp on the hand that feeds us!
Surely there's a happy middle ground, Raas. I stand by my claim that, historically, pilot unions are cancer. If you can suggest a better way than having the Sword of Damocles hanging perpetually over the heads of management, then I'd love to hear it.....Forum, remember? FORUM! Not a YY hatefest.
Cisco,
My dear chap, you continue to astound me! I suggest you give up this new flying nonsence, whatever it is, since you so clearly have an excellent career ahead of you in the CIA, or MI6! Stop making life miserable for your beleagured new employer and put your obvious tallents to good use. Glad you liked Nabokov, and now here's another author of renown I hope you like.
George Bernard Shaw once wrote that every profession is a conspiracy against the leity, and within the context of our recent discussions, Cisco, I suggest your beloved but cankered auld 'snout-in-trough' play group, also known as Aeropers, is the boyband pin-up for exactly this thought.
Pilot unions represent the biggest single threat to the long term viability of exactly the thing they claim to support...JOBS FOR PILOTS. We don't need 'em, we don't want 'em, and if you STILL have any lingering doubts about the virtue of what I write, you need only cast a jaundice eye in the direction of Belgium.
There are very few absolutes in aviation, Cisco, but here are two.
1. Airlines need to make a profit.
2. Unions ultimately destroy airlines.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that these two entities are best kept well apart.
Oh, and on the subject of MS and AD. You are wrong, yet again, I'm afraid. RG (all rise!) has suggested, for rather murky personal reasons if you ask me, that Himself plant his roses. You should know that the LX board has NOT voted in favour of this state of affairs, and is unlikely to. Besides, why change a winning team?
As for AD, the only inadequacy this remarkable young man has displayed thus far, in my opinion, is in not completely and utterly emasculating the farcical and unnecessary Marxist wankfests that currently litter the industrial horizon.
PILOT UNIONS.......BAH...HUMBUG!
[ 11 November 2001: Message edited by: Hold at Saffa ]