YAK YAK, you really are beginning to become a little OTT,I suspect you are still hour building so wait until you have enough to even be eligible for an ATPL. As for seniority lists ,I donīt know & Iīm sure you donīt either ,letīs put it another way; wait & see. There is no solution which can please everyone,but there can be a solution that is equitable,as you are so concerned about the cost base it wouldnīt make too much sense to retrain everybody in accordance with your suggestion of the īnewīlist.In this business itīs often the luck of the draw which determines oneīs fate as raas 76 says ,see TWA & AA, who Knows LX might also be taken over one day ..& then?