Centaurus.
As an Australian I would have assumed that you understand the english language. Pray tell from where in the previous posts do you draw the conclusions you have facetiously assumed in your previous post.
The issue canvassed was the integrity of a report that purported to be the product of a reputable carrier. It wasn't penned by them was never endorsed by them. Do you understand!
True, it was the input to Delta of two of 20 odd (informal/unqualified auditors) contributors to the final document which has remained confidential. If you have read the report you will recognise that it was strongly influenced by the previous experiences and prejudices of the authors rather than being an objective analysis of the system of operation and the auditees compliance therewith.
Things are far from perfect but they are light years ahead of the times you are talking of. For some reason persons such as yourself and 411A have a great deal of difficulty accepting that organisations can and do make serious efforts to correct the errors and ways of the past. I have little difficulty in suggesting that you would not treat a "western" airline in the same manner.
411A Your information is so far out of date I am surprised you cling to it. FSB haven't been on the scene for 5 or 6 years. The event you are talking of occured at least that long ago. Other incidents continue to occur but at least the company is proactive in trying to identify the areas of concern with a view to rectification. The FOQA program is vigorous, argueably too much so, in that some guys adversely modify behaviour out of fear of FOQA.
JO. If by ICAO audit, you are meaning IOSA audit. They passed first time. (more than can be said for a certain airline depicting a rat on their tail). If you are referring to an audit by Transport Canada/Canadian CAA, on behalf of several ICAO contracting states, they were put on notice for several items that were addressed to the satisfaction of those authorities, such that no penalties or restrictions occured. The myth about the "torture" of one of the inspectors, is exactly that, myth, but it makes a good bar story.
Gents the bottom line is, it is an organisation that has a less than desireable past, has had it's failings pointed out, and has taken action to address those short comings. This stuff doesn't happen overnight but at least they are trying. Give them a break.
If you want to rant or malign take the time to update your knowledge base rather than sprouting stuff that was relevant nearly a decade ago.
Maui
Last edited by maui; 20th Aug 2006 at 09:52.