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Old 11th Aug 2006, 17:56
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Five Green
 
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Electric Jet Jock Sir :

Originally Posted by electricjetjock
The majority of what I have read is NOT true and appears to be disinformation spouted by some "individuals" who have prejudiced views.
Which part are you saying is not true ?

Originally Posted by electricjetjock
SOP's / NP's are written down, everything is written down and funnily enough you DO have to put some work in yourself.
Everthing is not written down ! That is the whole problem. There is still too much room for individual Checker interpretation.

Originally Posted by electricjeetjock
You cannot expect to be treated (and paid) like an adult if you want to be a child.
Want to be a child ? Oh please you can do better than that, because let's face it we all got into this buisiness because we want to be a child. What I would like is an adult conversation about our abismal failure rate on JFO and command upgrades

Originally Posted by eelectricjjetjock
It was the same for the Charter Airline I flew for in the UK before joining CX.
Just becuase it was the same at your UK past life does not mean there are not more progressive ways to maximise your training and therefore your Pilot's proffesionalism, knowledge and ability to do their jobs, both under regular line flying and under abnormal and emergency situations.


Originally Posted by electricjetjock
As for some trainers / checkers being "anal" about standards, why is it that the majority can comply but you "few" cannot. We have to allow you to be different!! Sorry not going to happen, if you cannot be bothered to operate under this airlines "rules" go and fly for another.
I am not sure that the current monthly and yearly average of unsuccessful courses would constitute as "few" in fact it almost constitutes half. So are you actually saying that half of our pilots cannot be bothered to operate under CX rules ?

Originally Posted by electricjetjock
R/T & Ground communication standardisation is not just for us, but it is for the people we communicate with and for whom English is NOT their FIRST language. I am also sure many of you have been told that if a controller or someone else uses a different phrase then it is better to use that in replying to PREVENT confusion. As for good CRM by saying "good morning" etc, no problem with that if the frequency is not too busy and we do not get into what we had for breakfast etc etc. Guess what guys we are not the only ones using the frequency
No N. American here at CX is dangerously slack in their RT. As a N. American you will be expected to prove yourself when others might not have to.

Originally Posted by electricjetjock
A good example of non-standard R/T. Cleared to take off runway 31L at JFK, last month in a max weight A340-600, only to hear two calls within 10 seconds of each other of "XXXXX lining up 31L" and "XXXXX rolling onto 31L". Both from two jets making first contact with JFK tower having been handed over from approach. Very disconcerting for a heavy jet about to set take off thrust - **** have we missed something!
As I am always open to learning something, perhaps you could explain a little further how a plane on approach would call lining up or rolling ?

And finally, do you think there is a probleem with the failure rate at CX ?

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