Perhaps SASless and Roadtrip may like to take a considered deep breath before they start tossing around the insults etc.
And while they're doing that check out New Zealand's record at contributing to major world conflicts - start with WW1 / WW2 / Korean & Vietnam Wars and go from there. Then reflect upon the fact that our total population now has only just reached 4 million - you will then "possibly" - although I'm not too hopeful - realise that we have contrinuted portionately more than the good ole USA and UK combined.
With all due respect "gentlemen" your attitude attitude is a direct result of America no longer having the USSR to keep it in check and you now think you can run roughshod over the whole world - well sorry - you cant.
Giddyup