Originally Posted by DingerX
To put it another way, the existence of people like Lindzen is proof of what I'm saying: in this case, the environment doesn't matter, but rather the reaction of the world's regulating bodies to it.
Or you can reason that you'll be on the other side of those thunderheads in 2 minutes.
Aviate 1138 thinks....
We now have 24 hour 'Breaking News' worldwide. No Cold War scenarios, a few skirmishes, religious hatred [same for the last 3000+ years] and a scientific eye that sees almost everything in minute detail. Media has pages to fill. Good news doesn't sell papers.
Human Nature abhors a mental vacuum. Religion fills it for some. Global Warming does it for others. Not me. AFAIAC Carbon Claptrap is about as viable as the South Sea Bubble, Fools Gold and Dutch Tulips were viable centuries ago.
There were 3 times more hurricanes between 1940 and 1950 than the last decade. It was warmer in 1200 than now. Vikings colonised Greenland because it was - green! Icelandic Vikings grew barley in the 1100's and it can't be grown now! Too cold.
No one has included all the variables and accurately modelled our climate because it is too complex.
Kyoto panic is based on a projected .6ºC rise in the next 50 years. All that Carbon Cash will be thrown down the drain when it could be used to fund clean water production, cheap medicine, etc.
Wine was produced in Cumbria UK in 1200. It can't be done now because it isn't warm enough. By 1235 there was a mini Ice Age starting.
Media, blinded by the 'Breaking News 24/7' syndrome and Disaster Movies and TV series that people believe are real, have a lot to answer for IMHO.
Now 'Global Warming' either melts glaciers or builds them, causes droughts or floods, heats or freezes, I could go on but won't because you can't explain every weather change as carbon induced global warming.
In February 1963 I drove in the middle of the River Thames near Windsor in my Mini Cooper S for a mile or two and returned. The ice was so thick we had 450 people on the ice and barbequed lamb and pork. Learned scientists predicted a 'New Ice Age' They produced evidence to support it.
What's new? There never was and never will be a stable climate on this world of ours.
Aviate 1138