MrHorgy, A251, etc. - Don't forget that Skywave is currently in the CTC holding pool, which is tantamount to getting onto the flight deck (something in the region of 85-90% chance of a job as I recall). Any comparisons should, therefore, be made with that in mind. The fact that you, Mr Horgy, have, so far, spent £3000 less is totally irrelevant unless and until you are in the same point in the job market.