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Old 23rd Jul 2006, 19:21
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Originally Posted by Confabulous
The Air China incident wasn't a spin, the pax described high g loads for extended periods of time, similar to a spiral dive or badly executed barrel roll. No chance for the engines to separate! Besides, the report makes no mention of a spin, just a roll. Granted, the aircraft probably exceeded Mach 1 in the recovery
Confabulous,

I absolutely agree with you; I first thought spiral dive because of the high speed and high G loads, but having read on I go for the barrel roll which, without an initial pull up, rapidly becomes a barrel roll in the down vertical as demonstrated fatally by Don Bullock in the A26 Invader at Biggin Hill.

I Ford,

The structural damage is consistent with high G loads. There are no high G loads in a stable spin (IAS too low) although pilots have been known to follow a spin recovery with a spiral dive - but not in the Air China incident. I still think an early 707 would have shed pylons (due to sideslip loads) if it had been spun.

Regards,

rts
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