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Old 20th July 2006 | 12:31
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corklad
 
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MOR
"Awwwww.... didn't work out quite according to plan, did it? Guess that is what happens when you decide to train overseas. Maybe you should have gone to one of the US schools that train to JAA standards... but maybe that wasn't such a bargain, huh?"
No MOR, sorry to dissappoint you. There was no JAA back when I and many of my friends left...it was some vague new system that was coming some time soon and nobody really knew what to expect of it. I was ready to start flying so why would i wait another year or 2??
"Hmmm just like you do if you go from Europe to the US... maybe you should have trained to JAA standards if you wanted to return".
Again MOR, why should I fork out another small fortune to start from scratch? Im not rich kid with an endless supply ofr funds and time is money, not that you seem to care. I guess, according to your logic I should have gone to the money tree to get the necessay funds to go back flying cessnas again
"There's that chip again... you really believe the schools write the regs? You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about."
Sorry but, i think the chips lie firmly on both of your shoulders MOR! I think you'll find I know a little more about running a business than you do, you seem to have no idea of economics! You seem quite anti-american and anti-irish having observed your comments and remarks. I note that your hostility is vented at the FAA...I hold both FAA and Transport Canada licneses. Do you also not like Canadians or Aussies coming in or is it just FAA tickect holders???
haughtney1
"That comment shows how little you understand the North American pilot market...the reason for higher minimums is simple, there are FAR FAR more experienced pilots in the US, they still train in the time honoured way (the way I did) by doing the CPL...instructing a bit...a bit of PT 135 etc....3 years and 2000hrs later they are ready for the regionals"
Sorry haughtney1, but i think i understand that market place perfectly well, I have been here on and off for almost 7 yrs!! You do make a valid point though.
"True colours coming out eh? Embittered because of the rules changed?"
Embittered, NO, dissappointed YES, I will freely admit that one! but who wouldnt be???
"Missing the point here....we arent talking about the 200hr pilot...we are talking about JAA licensed and experienced people being passed up because its easier and cheaper for the IAA to endorse US pilots..for their buddys in previously mentioned organisations"
I have to disagree here. I dont belive that anyone with the required experiance is being passed up for a forgeiner. I think, though i appologise if i am wrong, that you are taking a simplistic view on this one. I would say, as everyone now knows, that because there are no real cadetships anymore and that companies dont want to pay for training, they are only taking the guys who are experienced and ready to go. The policy of 500hrs on type for example springs to mind. If it makes business sense, money wise, to get pilots from abroad then thats what the companies are going to do. Again its a business not a hobby or a club that some people seem to think they are ENTITLED TO JOIN! The companies dont feel like they have to spend their money to pay pilots to fly their planes. Is that right or wrong? Not for me to decide but its been that way for a long while now. So if there is a need to get asses on cockpit seats they are going to do it in the cheapest, fastest and easiest way possible. If that helps people like me to return home and get a job, then Im sorry but Im going to take that option. Same as anyone else here would.
Pprune Radar
"I may have missed something somewhere, but why wouldn't your first port of call to get a JAA Land licence be your own national CAA, i.e the IAA ??
Presumably they'd be more than happy to convert your licence, wouldn't they ?"
Very simply really, at the time i was told that the CAA was the place to go to sort things out. thats the only reason why I went there really. After being told "soooo sorry", I went to canada to build some more hrs. What I would say was nobody there ever seemed to care about forgeiners flying in their country. the conversion process was relatively straight fwd...flying at -10 wasnt though
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