I have said it before, as have others and I will say it again, there is no way, I repeat no way that anyone posting on hear will ever ever ever change JP or the Cat's mind.
Whether they are simply mis informed, part of the MOD machine or of the same the same evil vein as the malicious d246 we will never know but not one single person on here will ever illicit an honest answer to a question we pose to this slippery pair as they spin better than Mandelson ever did and will distort everything we ask, so lets try to ignore them and back Brian with the real purpose of this thread
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced