red no, just because dubai ask for extra spacing does not mean they are inflexable.
the inflexability is when dubai use "lots of dep's" as an excuse when there are 4 in the hour, or when they say its going to "get busy later" usually after 1930 and they put the flow in place of 35nm at 1800, or when we have a stream inbound from the west where we can give you 10-15nm intrail with just speeds, nothing inbound from the east for the next hour, with 1 depature pending and we are told no still need 20-35nm no reason given..... and the a/c are still given "track direct no speed" on first contact with dubai.
use the holds? yes i do when needed. vector? again guilty but try and avoid at all costs big multiple vectors. speeds again yes. do i use the holds more as a result of the points of view expressed on here. no. the traffic is on the arrivials sectors not on pprune.
if we are talking about sticking to the letter of agreement, ranbi gate heading 285deg does not = direct orsar, riket isn't direct tonvo and 3 dep through tonvo every ten min means 3 not 5. but you still ask for that stuff and we help you out because we are trying to "work together".
howabout a bit of the same from dubai. use the big range to look at the traffic and flow accordingly.
