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Old 30th June 2006 | 23:37
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Ali Bin Somewhere
 
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same old same old.........

pilots- some prefer vectors, others prefer to hold, some prefer to fly their own speed, others prefer their speed isued as they take off from whogivesa@#$% and every single one of you think you should be number one even though there are 10 a/c in front of you......

easy solution is enroute slot times. you make the time you get your slot to land at a set speed/decent profile. you cant make the slot time or cant comply with the speed/decent profile you go into an enroute hold away from the arrivial and wait there till a slot opens up. simple.

on another note

every night we are supposed to give dubai 10nm in trail (rwy 30) through desdi and 15nm through bubin no closing between all a/c be they props or jets. these are the rules that we have to operate under as issued by both dubai and uae acc.

without fail dubai app call us up with "we need anywhere between 15nm to 30nm from 1830(ish) both gates" with the occasional "everything 230-250 ias by desdi/bubin" when asked why we are told reasons rangeing from "it might get busy" to "there are a couple of depatures to go". so we go to the effort of vectoring/holding/speedcontrol to give the required spacing. then after much work the a/c are transfered to dubai app. dub on first contact issue "cancel speed track direct to......."

result dub are called a fantastic bunch of guys/girls and why dont they do all the sequencing cause we always get this from them, when in reality they are the ones asking for double or triple the required spacing.

uae acc are called a bunch of idiots who shouldn't be allowed to talk to a/c when in reality the vectors/speed/holds are due to the extra spacing requirements given to us by the dubai app controllers.

this will of course go in one ear and out the other along with all the basic r/t and airmanship that everyone is supposed to have but there you go. its only the middle east so what does it matter..........

Last edited by Ali Bin Somewhere; 1st July 2006 at 03:57.
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