Can't be bothered to read all of the posts as it is getting rather silly... however (and their are some exceptions to the rules, both individuals and units).... the majority of NATS controllers do not know how to effectively apply RAS/RIS - and the college instructors are amongst the worst.....
Maybe this lack of knowledge (or ignorance to use the word in its proper definition) is one of the reasons why military and civil do not always understand each other...
I will now step back from the fuse I have lit, but suffice to say, I have extensive knowledge of both sides of the operation..
