The sad thing is that people don't go to the press or the caa straight away, most of us try and deal with these problems internally. but when your quality manager has a conflict of interest and is in the pocket and answerable to the hierarchy that are causing this culture what chance have you got. in general u don't want your companies dirty washing aired, but when u have totally lost confidence in these departments what other option is there, even going to the caa seems pointless, and CHIRP don't make me laugh. i totally agree until we have a big smoky hole in the ground with the smell of burning flesh and luggage strewn across the runway..........................................