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Old 6th June 2006 | 19:35
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Gonna
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The KLM scheme is different and although I don't know the details of the benefits, it assumes a career-wide average. When you consider that the average KLM starter is only in his or her early twenties and then they can enjoy approximately 35 years of KLM employement earning what is arguably a "generous" salary- certainly it is much better than many other airlines, and will end their career as a Jumbo Captain earning (so I understand, but I am prepared to be corrected) close to €250,000 pa. Add in the fact that I fly with KLM first officers who earn more than I do as a KLC Uk Captain and they are still in their twenties, you can see that over a career, the average KLM employee will have a significantly higher AVERAGE salary than we have as a FINAL salary.
Again assumptions that are untrue. Average age joining currently more late twenties. Changes of reaching Jumbo captain are remote. Too many collegues same age did start in their early twenties... Also a KLM F/O in his twenties that makes more than a UK captain is very unlikely. If he joines at 20 and is 29 he makes 65000 pounds. That may be more than you do. But how many KLM pilots started at 20 and are F/O F70 now at 29? 1?

I can understand that you're building your case by exaggerating, but that's not going to get you my sympathy. Apparently you don't know the facts about our contract, as I don't know them about yours. But let me tell you this: the grass on this side may not be much greener than it is on yours. Just different type of grass, probably.

So please stick with the real facts. What is it that you had, that they want to take away from you? If you're fighting to maintain what you have, I'm sure most KLM pilots will support you (the pension story for example). If you want to join KLM (let's not discuss the position on the list for now, that's more difficult), most KLM pilots will support you, as long as you guys accept the standards that come with it, like being based in AMS.

Point of the story: if you guys want to get a real result in the ongoing negotiations, you're going to need the support of your KLM collegues. Maybe you can put a little more effort in getting that.

Looking forward to the factsheet in the BMC.
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