Well, allan907, back in the good old days before RAFC Cranwell dumbed down, merged with Henlow secondary modern and went comprehensive, the Houblon Arms was a well-known watering hole for Flt Cdts. As was the Hare and Hounds at Fulbeck - both were equally popular with student officers when I returned from university for Graduate Entry training. There was no real 'us and them' - we quite often met some of the staff in local pubs.