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Old 1st Jun 2006, 23:19
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Martin1234
 
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Some people interpret things out of my request that I didn't write nor was my intention. The request was pretty clear and if you meet the criteria and is interested in the business go ahead and contact me.

It seems that I have upset some people here so I'm going to answer your queries anyway;

Tot, my comment was not intented to be interpreted word for word. I was implying that some people replying to this thread should have better things to do than trying to be smart-ass. This could be due to the fact that the person or persons have nothing better to do. If instructors also would have that much spare-time (e.g. no instruction to do), prices would go down. Remember the smiley, which implies that a word for word interpretation of the text might not correspond to the intention of the author.

you want to find a UK or Irish flying school (because of your ATPL theory credits) that will let you have a CPL instructor and R22 for way under the going rate
I don't mind doing the training in the UK in the first place, notwithstanding where my ATPL theory credits are. If someone has a good deal of maybe 10% under the going rate that would be great. I never said nor implied that I try to get a deal "for way under the going rate" which 10% isn't.

AND personally negotiate the right to train you overseas if necessary?
No, I go where the instructor prefers to do the training. Maybe I wasn't clear enough on this but my intention was that I don't mind where in Europe the instruction is taking place.

Remember an FTO approval for modular CPL does not come lightly or cheaply
I assume that the UK CAA, as well as other aviation authorities, charge for the set-up of the FTO and then a yearly fee - not a fee for every student. If the FTO already holds an approval, one way to make revenue out of the invested money at the Belgrano is to increase the number of students.

I'm not quite sure of your last comment - many current and ex instructors dedicate quite a lot of time on here to help answer people's training questions, take our advice as you see fit.
I think you misunderstood it. Anyhow, help from instructors or anyone else not being a smart-ass is of course as always highly appreciated.

with some sort of dodgy deal with some instructor who is too stupid to earn what he deserves to earn.
If I deal directly with the instructor, who has a deal with an FTO, the instructor might end up getting more money even if I pay less since the commission to the school would be less.

as long as the paperwork appears to be ok he doesnt care. as all he is thinking about is licensing rather than "employability"
Who are you talking about? I never said nor implied what you state.

martin sounds like just another guy who thinks he can be clever and his driving force is "cheap cheap" and is not interested in quality.
As I stated earlier; "the cheapish deal does not necessarily imply it is the best deal".

I've flown with not so good instructors that don't really care about the quality of the instruction they are giving as long as it gives them more hours to log. To the contrary, I've flown with good, dedicated instructors that take pride in what they do which they are also good at. I'm more than willing to pay more for such an instructor.

As with everything, price does often but not always imply the quality of the service you get. After all, I'm saying that I have about £7000 excluding VAT to spend in a time frame of 2-4 weeks. The deal is likely to be yours if you provide quality instruction and charge around 10% less than the going rate. I will travel where you are. I don't think it's a bad deal, especially if the instructor owns the aircraft or rents it at a competative price.

I didn't expect anyone to give me a great deal on flight training. However, if I plan to spend around £7000 it would be foolish not to at least try to get the best deal possible.
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