Just got back from the gym....(in the hope of retaining ones medical) and it seems the discussion has moved on a bit.
And indeed we would expect you to, however an "Unsafe clearance" such as you suggest is not really what is being discussed within the context of this thread. (Standing agreements and descent planning as a primary argument)
Point taken, I did however make mine for no other reason than for the sake of clarity.
Again back to my point, there is no big secret. Why can't you accept that the information that is (or is not) published is done so by Directorate of Airspace Policy at the CAA and not by Air Traffic Control Units.
From what Ive read (and hopefully understood) of this discussion, the nuts and bolts of it relate to the tactical expectation of what is likely to be asked for/complied with, rather than digging through endless volumes of minutia to find a point that may or may not be relevant on any given day. As BOAC so succinctly puts it..give us a clue
Perhaps you should look further up the food chain before bashing ATCO's on here for doing their job?
If you call constructive criticism bashing, perhaps you are getting a little emotive about this issue.
I can only agree with BOAC LGW/LHR and even MAN are generally very very good, why this is I have no idea..I am a mere button pusher after all
