While slinging Fertilizer with a Hiller you have to just trim the cyclic to a fairly neutral position because the bucket emties so fast you wear yourself out trying to trim it. So you just force feed the cyclic all day long,as if the collective wasn't bad enough.If you've ever worked a Hiller you will know what I'm talking about. Hiller pilots soon learn how to move there left leg over to help hold up the collective. Just no fun to fly.