It is the view of "detremental to KLM pilots" that is interesting.
1. If a Uk pilot joins the senioirty list it will affect a Dutch pilot who hasnt even joined yet is one I have heard. ( and his child that will join that is not yet born)
2. If a uk pilot joins KLM and retains his curent position that is unfair to a klm pilot, is another.
Basically at the moment the only thing we are being offered is to join KLM at the bottom and retrain into the position that the seniority allows, ie a 15 year jet capatin would be demoted to an f/o on the Fokker 70 if lucky or a turboprop position. This forgets the fact that we came into KLM bringing approx 25 aircraft ( I forget exactly how many).
If we dont join KLM we stay exactly where we are as a jet captain / fo until they have a convienient time to get rid of us.
Not all the pilots were expected to leave to Buzz several wanted to carry on feeding amsterdam. AS mentioned earlier over 100 pilots have felt forced to leave so the expected loss has all but happened.
The VNV / KLM have an agreement that guarentees that pilots will leave KLM uk at an agreed rate!!!!!!
The arguement is that that would only be illegal if it was used, so if the pilots are forced to leave by themsleves, no law is broken,, get the idea...of what we have been going thorugh.
We dont want much, put us on the bottom of the list , leave our present rates of pay / base, and let us stay where we are until we our seniority allows us to bid elsewhere.
How can that hurt anyone in KLM?
Last edited by freddyfokker; 21st May 2006 at 10:48.