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Old 21st May 2006 | 09:20
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bellfest
 
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you don't know sh1t about me. Be careful making assumptions on people. Not a good habit to start.
You are right it was a guess, I was quite prepared for you to prove me wrong here but you didn't. You have either decided that such an assumption is not worthy of a reply or, I wasn't too far from the truth. It wasn't my intention to insult you, just an attempt to clarify where you are coming from.

To hear from 'self-acclaimed' masters that their efforts are worth nothing is pretty hard for them to swallow.
I don't see any self acclaimed masters on this thread. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and no one here is blowing their own horn. I would hope that "they" aren't misinterpreting this as bad as you are. At the end of the day if some of you are offended I couldn't really give two knobs of dried billy goat sh1t. The truth needs to be told. Read on and you will see it is not my intention to insult you.

I did notice in your first post that you mentioned 'the authority' being the problem. However, it still looks very much as if you are having a go at low time instructors...belittling their hard earned acheivements, and writing them out of the possiblity ever being able to be such a great pilot as yourself. Hell of an attitude that is for someone who is claiming that oldy-boldys should do all the instruction! I'd love to sit in on one of your debriefs!
That's quite an elaborate version of my opinion. Light years away from the actual, but nice fabrication none the less
Now I will tell you exactly what I think, as clear as I possibly can.
1)The requirements to obtain an instructors rating in my opinion is too low.
2)These requirements are set by the respective authorities so therefore it is they that are responsible.
3)If it is seen as acceptable by a fresh CPLH to gain hours by instructing with these minimal requirements then it is not his fault if he chooses to go down this path in an industry that is very hard to get a start in. It is the authorities fault for making him think it is acceptable. I have never directly insulted or belittled the low hour instructor.
4)I don't think that there is any room for mentoring in the first 1000 hours, in a flying school or in a commercial operation. As I have stated before, it is much more beneficial to assume you are behind the eight ball and not in front of it. Knighting a fresh pilot with the privelege to teach can place them in front of the eight ball. Having a pre conceived idea of ones ability is not that beneficial in this game.
5) To debate a topic like this we have to generalise. I don't know each low or high time instructor so you must understand that we are talking odds here.
You are quite correct to say that some individuals can have a better ability to teach than others. There is probably a percentage of good teachers and bad teachers, say 70/30. With a group of experienced instructors you will have 7/10 all round good instuctors and 3/10 not so good instructors with the added benefit of experience. Now tell me what you will get with the proportionate amount of low time instructors.

What the aviation industry did in the past is not really relevant. How people got taught in the past (which did work)
Have you heard of the expression "Reinventing the wheel" ?

If you self-confessed gurus are going to convince me that you should be doing all the instruction then your attitudes to 'new pilots', and their knowledge progression are going to have to change. Remember, 'Respect' is one of the greatest facilitators to teaching and learning. However, respect is a two-way system.
Talk about assumptions. I am happy to admit that I have picked up a lot of good points from those less experienced than I. I will say though that I can't remember a whole lot those points being about hands on aviating from 200 hour pilots. I am open to anyones point of view and any young chap with a bit of enthusiasm, the ability to work and some sting in their tale will get a lot of respect from me. So please don't assume that I am a disrespectful, arragont ass as that is a trait that I despise.

Last edited by bellfest; 21st May 2006 at 12:23.
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