Bellfest,
It didn't take long for frustration to turn to personal digs, did it? BTW, you don't know sh1t about me. Be careful making assumptions on people. Not a good habit to start.
Well, I find we are at an impass, so to wrap things up...
I did notice in your first post that you mentioned 'the authority' being the problem. However, it still looks very much as if you are having a go at low time instructors...belittling their hard earned acheivements, and writing them out of the possiblity ever being able to be such a great pilot as yourself. Hell of an attitude that is for someone who is claiming that oldy-boldys should do all the instruction! I'd love to sit in on one of your debriefs!
Chairman of the Board (who has been noticably quiet) started this, in the first line of this thread, by saying, "I thought I better stir things up with some thoughts." 'Stir' things up...well he did that...but to what end? Of course he's going to get emotionally charged responses...many successful and unsuccesful pilots who opted for the 'instruction' route did that because it is now the only way to crack an industry which, although is more accessible is actually more competitive too. The committment and risk required to go this route is massive...maybe more than the military route or the 'father was a pilot too' route, that many of the 'grey-haired aces' of today took. To hear from 'self-acclaimed' masters that their efforts are worth nothing is pretty hard for them to swallow.
If you self-confessed gurus are going to convince me that you should be doing all the instruction then your attitudes to 'new pilots', and their knowledge progression are going to have to change. Remember,
'Respect' is one of the greatest facilitators to teaching and learning. However, respect is a two-way system.
The aviation industry has been doing just fine so far thanks very much. I meet fewer and fewer pilots of the quality of yesterday
What the aviation industry did in the past is not really relevant. How people got taught in the past (which did work) is not how pilot training will happen ever again. That's exactly why you think you are seeing lower quality pilots coming up through the system. Something has broken and needs fixing or replacing. Can't you see that?
...something that is of no benefit to them whatsoever when they enter the real world of aviation.
Sorry. Still very patronising and pompous (see paragraph above) !...and I daresay you'd agree, not entirely true.
you would take the experienced bloke every time
No, it depends on their ability to teach,
their attitude and the level of learning of the student. For a student with less than 200 hrs, I don't think years of instructor experience is actually that great a benifit. (Ph.D example.)
Well I enjoyed our discussion....time will tell as to which way things go...if authorities do in fact decide to make flight training even more expensive by raising standards and requiring higher time instructors (who will demand more pay) or if the market decides and the industry has to adjust to the new way.
That's all from me.
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