I totally agree Bloggs. Comanche who are you trying to kid? if this goes through it will be more to do with apathy than anything else. its an OK deal but short of expectations based on current market and membership levels. Somehow people seem to think that if we let them away with this, the management will do the right thing on lifestyle. There are gonna be some very unhappy campers at the end of those negotiations and it won't be management. I hope to be proved wrong but the reality is that I won't.