SLT, and others, the relevance of the BALPA/DANAIR episode for new pilots today is that BALPA. all that time ago, were incontrovertibly proved to be an outfit with no principles or moral scruples whatsoever. The exact details of it's perfidy, or where you heard them from don't change that fact. Since then, a few rules have been altered, and some personalities moved on, but I can find no real evidence that the outfit has been reborn. Until, by it's deeds, not just it's words, it proves otherwise, it will still be regarded as untrustworthy by a substantial section of the pilot fraternity. You could resurrect Robert Maxwell as a new saint, but I will still not give him with 1% of my salary. I wait with bated breath for the next time BALPA is put to the test, but, funnily enough, I don't have too many high hopes.