Consul you are right, Irish pilots are amongst the good guys and as you say, inspite of the IAA. There is no "Paddy Bashing" meant or intended from this corner. But don't you think that an organisation which has so many aircraft so look after (I'm not just speaking about those operated by RYR, but those operated throughout the world, many by national flag carriers) should have a greater presence? And in no way was I criticising the guys involved. But we have ways and means to help ensure that these "minor" excursions don't take place. Some of the them, like EGPWS (which doesn't care what's in the FMS, set up on the Nav boxes etc...) are technical. Other are operational, some training related and many airmanship related. And on each and every one of these factors, leadership and guidance MUST come from the national oversight authority. To date, I believe that they have been sleeping. Maybe, hopefully, this will be the turning point and you will end with an organistion to be proud of.