McDoo - I think "BS" in the pay formula stands for something else... Let's not forget WJ started this race to the bottom. WJ lowered the bar for 10 years and you somehow think you're raising it??? You finally got a raise to be where AC is after their 20% pay cut, and training pay and all those extras either still are present at AC or were traded in the debasing of working condidtions to meet the sad reality of "worst contract sets the standard". Base pay is all that really matters, the "BS" factor comes in guessing what pay really is. Any WJ pilot will admit over the last few years options and profit shares have counted for squat, and those good at math will tell you that the share purchase program is overrated. Break-even is about it these days. Good thing for Clive his pilots rarely do the math. Part of the reason Teal culture is disliked by many is the vagueness and deception of the payscale post. A lot of assumptions are made about stock holding it's level or rising in value and you include working extra hours in your calculations and all kinds of crap. Why not include all the nickles you find in the seats when you cross the belts or the $2.50 from taking your empties back? Raise the bar for the world? C'mon, give me a break, your head can't be that far up your arse! What you should tell the guy interviewing is what the future really looks like - forever in the right seat and falling stock values. Oh yeah, and the perdiems suck.