Originally Posted by LLuke
When the UK-guys had the choice of which contract, they choose the one that suited them most (or hurted them least), but as a relatively small group they're now totally stuck. Unhappy with the contract they choose and unable to improve it. Only way to go is the mainline contract and negotiate some additional items to enable a social family life in the UK. This is gonna cost both parties something since kostenneutraal is still a hot issue. I see many solutions, but by fighting/alienating everybody they' re only gonna end up with the legal minimum of what they' re entitled to.
Just my 2 Eurocents.
Unfortunatly LLuke this shows the mis-understanding that alot of out collegues in mainline have of our situation, we have tried for three years to talk, reason etc, and all that has happened is things have got worse, nobody want to resort to a fight or threats but we have been left with no option.
Most chose to move to BUZZ but a week after decisions had to be made KLM sold BUZZ to Ryanair, these pilots were then told tough the mainline option is now closed you must stay in KLCuk. We were mislead by the KLM board.
FACT: the VNV HAVE blocked UK management/training appointments and insisted that "mainline contract" pilots only get the jobs, FACT: the Duin & Kruidberg Agreement calls for uk jobs to reduce by a set number per year FACT: KLMuk pilots were NEVER invited to integration talks involving the Duin & Kruidberg Agreement which directly affected their futures. FACT: Duin & Kruidberg Agreement states that KLCuk can never employ another pilot in the UK. Forgive me this is pure discrimination.
I do not blame you or my collegues on mainline directly, as has been stated before most are decent people and would not wish for others to be harmed in their name, but this is exactly what is happening here.
KLCuk has reduced by 100 pilots in the past few years, these jobs have been replaced by pilots on mainline contracts, so that means there are 100 pilots on the mailine seneiority list working for KLM who have directly benefited by our loss, this is not only unfair but damn right immoral.
there are about 140ish pilots left in KLCuk all they ask for is long term security for them and their families.