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Old 12th Mar 2006, 10:40
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IO540
 
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Ah, a Mac or Linux user, I presume?

The general idea with icing, as I have written before a number of times, is to always have an escape route (generally a descent into warmer air) and a plan for the flight which avoids IMC altogether if the temperature at the relevant level is in the 0C to -15C band.

Nobody wants to sit in IMC for hours, whether you have a KI aircraft or not. It's boring at best, unpleasant for passengers, freezing cold because most unpressurised planes don't have a heater that can give you +20C inside with -15C outside and no solar gain, and eventually you may collect too much ice no matter what and then have to do something about it.

But with a decent plane (say TB20 and similar) you can flight plan a flight at say FL160 (obviously you need an IR for that, in most places, due to Class A) and this would usually take you into VMC. Any freezing IMC encountered en route is dealt with by asking for a climb or a descent "due to icing", etc before you enter it. Then, you have to make sure that the climb and descent at the ends is OK and often this is what drops the spanner into the works and prevents you going - not the en route section which is relatively easier to deal with.

Obviously you need oxygen.

If you are flying a C150 or even a PA28, you can't do any of this, because the thing won't be able to climb high enough to be VMC on top with reasonable probability. It also doesn't have the range to make it worth doing. A plane with 1000nm range (with IFR reserves) can take you from a CAVOK area, over 2 or 3 completely different weather systems, into another CAVOK area. One problem here is that perhaps most people reading this are indeed flying spamcans which are unsuitable for this kind of flying in the first place, but that should not prevent a reasonable debate, absent of "ice will kill you, must avoid it totally" hysterics.

As to the details: every half decent plane has a heated pitot tube, never heard of static ports icing up (and there is alternate static from the cockpit), W&B is not a problem with ice until you have so much of it you are going to plummet anyway due to having no lift, decent IFR tourers, especially ones that come in KI versions, have big enough gaps around the control surfaces, carb icing is nothing to do with any of this (also any half decent plane is fuel injected and doesn't have a carb, but could get intake icing for which there is an alternate inlet), and one would avoid flight if CBs are forecast (you wouldn't fly through a front, for example, in potential IMC) unless VMC can be reasonably assured in the relevant section. Various other things like that.

I don't mean to minimise this subject; just trying to make the point that with decent planning it isn't something that is going to kill you, because you had your escape route planned before you set off.

Last edited by IO540; 12th Mar 2006 at 12:11.
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