I agree with fireloop on this one. As an ex KLM uk pilot who moved to KLM I am also saddened by how the Air Uk guys have been treated over the last 3 years, worse still that people who have become good friends have felt the only option is to leave. No company is perfect and any person who wishes it upon the KLM pilots to be treated the way the Air Uk guys were, well, shame on you is all I can say. Some comments posted here really should be taken with a pinch of salt! As for joining the company and having to be a relief pilot for 5 years, would normally be the case I think but direct entry Captains are being recruited right now so things do change!