silly polemic, cornwallis. While I myself am not a friend of swiss ATC simply based on their unfriendlyness, their strict adherence to phraseology has something going for itself. Damn germs, bloody french, italians and spaniards, they each speak whatever's on their mind, mostly in their own native tongue. very instructive when trying to avoid metal on metal based on hearsay, because atc won't tell you where what is...